Showing posts with label lying. Show all posts
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06 September 2020

A Few Thoughts About Lying

What is truth?

B1 Truth is reality. If I hit my thumb with a hammer, it hurts. That is the truth.

B2 Articles:

C1 Truth as a philosophy. You can find much here at Sanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy and search for truth. This is the link.

C2 From a Christian viewpoint, Thomas Aquinas wrote much. See here “Truth by Thomas Aquinas (pdf).

C3 Search at Bethinking concerning truth.

The difficulty in knowing truth

B1 Why is truth difficult to know?

B2 Many different theories and philosophies of what truth is

B3 Many different lifestyles and worldviews because of this difficulty

B4 It seems obvious that there is a curse placed on the world. There is evil, death, sickness, etc.

C1 The logic that creation is most reasonable. See here: Created or evolved?

C2 God pronounced everything good, that is, it met His standard of perfection (Genesis 1:31).

C3 Truth also was perfect, so was love, compassion, gentleness, etc.

C4 All became corrupted when Adam (not Eve) deliberately, premeditatedly disobeyed God (Genesis 3:17-19).

C5 Since all was corrupted, truth was corrupted. Compare 1 Timothy 6:5

C6 Everything became so corrupted that God pronounced judgment (Genesis 6:11-13).

C7 Corruption from God’s standard is often related to what we say (Proverbs 4:24, Proverbs 6:12, Titus 1:15-16).

C8 Life itself becomes a lie instead of truth.

C9 Corruption is our heart, that is, our innermost being that is corrupted. See Matthew 15:18-20.

C10 Some people have no truth. See 1 Timothy 6:5.

C11 A problem with the human heart. It is not even able to do so. Romans 8:7-8 LEB because the mindset of the flesh is enmity toward God, for it is not subjected to the law of God, for it is not able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh are not able to please God.

C12 The heart is so corrupted that it is unable to know the truth of how evil it is. Jeremiah 17:9 ESV The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?

B5 To restore truth, Jesus, God the Son, came to earth, born of woman, and ministering to all.

Consider how lies influence us

B1 A child is told their nose is too big or too small (bullying).

B2 Someone is told they are stupid or highly intelligent (manipulation).

B3 Someone is blamed for all the problems in a marriage (domestic abuse).

B4 “Follow me. I have some secret knowledge that I will share with you.” (Seduction)

B5 “I’ll give you power and success.” (a deception to control the person who believes it).

B6 “This is Microsoft tech, and there is something wrong with your computer.” (lying to make money)

B7 Much too often we believe a lie, because we want to believe it.

C1 Flattery

C2 Something too good to be true

C3 To justify something we want to do

B8 30 Reasons Why People Lie

For the Christian truth starts with Jesus Christ.

B1 John 14:6 NLT Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.

B2 He is the highest perfection of truth. There is no lie in him. See Isaiah 53:9, 1 Peter 1:19, 1 Peter 2:22, John 18:38,

B3 He teaches the truth and was never proven wrong by those who he lived with. They disagreed but never disproved.

B4 He teaches the Jews: John 8:44-47 NRSV You are from your father the devil, and you choose to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks according to his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe me. 46 Which of you convicts me of sin? If I tell the truth, why do you not believe me? 47 Whoever is from God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear them is that you are not from God."

B5 It is most reasonable for everyone to be a Christian. See here.

B6 Decision

C1 There is truth, and there is lie.

C2 How do we know if anything is true or false?

C3 There must be a standard of truth (2 Timothy 3:16-17, 1 Thessalonians 5:21, Matthew 7:24-27).

C4 When we need to know if a statement, thought, deed, etc. is truth, we must compare it to a standard. The standard must be unchanging.

C5 How do we know what standard is truth? It seems it would depend of one’s beliefs, but this makes it subjective.

C6 Standards commonly accepted by people.

D1 The standard of authority. One is considered an authority because of education, research, experience, etc. But, the authority good be wrong, for we see disagreements among experts.

D2 The standard of coherence. Statements as commonly understood must be adhered together to a specified proposition. A coherence theory bases the truth of a belief on the degree to which it coheres ("hangs together") with all the other beliefs in a system of beliefs (typically one person's beliefs, but it could be any body of knowledge). (Source). But, a statement might be interpreted differently, what is seen is different from the facts (illusions, etc.), or not a complete set. One can see this in eye-witness statements.

D3 The standard of consensus. A statement, belief, situation is believed to be truth or false from most people. But, the consensus may be forced by a controlling power, deceived, or a cultural difference, etc.

D4 The standard of consistency. These are of two types.

E1 Mere consistency. A person makes statements that are consistent to each other. But, the person may be a practiced liar or a great salesman, lawyer, politician, preacher, abuser, etc.

E2 Strict consistency. A person makes a statement that results in a consistent second point, then third, etc. This is logic. But, one person’s logical statements may differ from another’s statements.

D5 The standard of correspondence. This is where the statement and the information from the statement correspond. They are the same. But, the words may be interpreted differently as in sarcasm, which may be true.

D6 The standard of custom. An action or statement is true because that’s the way it always has been understood. Theology may be an example. But, the custom may be in error.

D7 The standard of emotion. A statement is true because of a feeling that is trusted to be true. Even an experience could be considered true. But, an experience may be due to habit, training, beliefs, wishes, etc. and not agree with the facts.

D8 The standard of intuition. A statement or action is true, because it was heard or thought about there was a certainty. “My intuition tells me so.” But, it cannot be tested against any facts.

D9 The standard of majority rule. A statement is true because most people, whether experts or not, believe it so. But, again when tested, there it doesn’t match the facts.

D10 The standard of naïve realism. Seeing is believing. But, again, one person may interpret a color, for example, and another sees a distinct color.

D11 The standard of pragmatism. A statement or action is true because it works. But, in a different situation or culture it may not work.

D12 The standard of revelation. Something is true because some spirit declared it true whether the information came in a dream, vision, or something else. But, the revelator may be a liar or imaginary. Again, can it be tested.

D13 The standard of time. This is when something is considered true because it has been considered true for so long as in the statement “the test of time.” But, again further information may show differently.

D14 The standard of tradition. This is when something is true because that is the way we have always done that or believed that. But, when tested shows to not be according to the facts.

C7 Personally, correspondence theory seems most reasonable. When a person reads the Bible, they notice that God takes as truth what a person says, and God does the same when a person talks to Him.

C8 Also, I find it most reasonable that Jesus is this perfect source of truth. When he predicted something, it was true. The prediction was accurate as to who and/or what specifically happened.

D1 A few of Jesus’s predictions.

E1 Jesus predicted his death by the Romans at least 3 times.

E2 He also predicted his resurrection. See Matthew 12:40, Matthew 16:21, Matthew 17:22-23, Matthew 20:17-19.

E3 He also predicted the method of killing him (Matthew 26:21).

E4 He predicted that he would be betrayed (Matthew 26:21-24).

E5 He predicted that his faithful followers would desert him (Matthew 26:30-32).

E6 He predicted his most fanatical follower would deny knowing Jesus (Matthew 26:33-35).

D2 Articles:

E1 Did Jesus Predict His Own Resurrection?

E2 Is prediction (prophecy) a proof of truth? See

F1 The Top 40 Messianic Prophecies

F2 Fulfilled Prophecy a Potent Argument for the Bible

F3 From Reliable to Divine: Fulfilled Prophecy in the Old Testament

C9 Because of the above, I personally accept that the Bible is the only standard of 100% truth. It is the perfect standard. We humans cannot know truth perfectly without it.

C10 The Bible must be interpreted in its plain, normal sense. See Principles of the Literal Bible Interpretation

Application to our life

B1 We must admit reality. If I am an addict, I must admit it. If I am abused, I must admit it. If I am a liar, I must admit it. If I am a sinner, I must admit it. No healing can take place spiritually, emotionally, or physically until we admit the truth.

B2 We must be a little skeptical and not believe everything we hear.

C1 Proverbs 14:15 ESV The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps.

C2 2 Timothy 4:3-4 NLT For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will reject the truth and chase after myths.

C3 Hebrews 13:9 NLT So do not be attracted by strange, new ideas. Your strength comes from God's grace, not from rules about food, which don't help those who follow them.

B3 Healing starts with admitting the truth about ourselves. Compare Luke 18:9-14).

B4 Truth must be in our inward life as well as our outward life. Psalms 51:6 LEB Behold, you delight in truth in the inward parts, and in the hidden parts you make me to know wisdom.

B5 We must believe what someone tells us they have been abused, molested, etc. and take appropriate action. All crimes must be reported to law enforcement.

B6 We must live in the truth (Psalm 86:11 (NLT), 2 John 1:3-4, 3 John 1:3-4 (NLT)).

B7 The truth does set us free. (John 8:32, Romans 8:2, 2 Corinthians 3:17)

B8 We must continue to live in the truth. The Holy Spirit helps us by giving grace (Hebrews 4:16, Psalm 43:3) and chastens us when needed (Hebrews 12:6).

B9 We must read, study, memorize, pray for (Psalm 86:11), and live the truth (Psalm 15:2, Ephesians 4:25).

B10 We must teach the truth (2 Corinthians 6:7, 2 Timothy 2:15 (NLT)).

B11 We must stand up for the truth (Jeremiah 9:3 (NLT) and 2 Corinthians 13:8 (NLT)).

B12 Quote from Barclay (be cautious):

Discipleship results in freedom. "The truth will make you free." "In his service is perfect freedom." Discipleship brings us four freedoms. (a) It brings us freedom from fear. The man who is a disciple never again has to walk alone. He walks for ever in the company of Jesus, and in that company fear is gone. (b) It brings freedom from self. Many a man fully recognizes that his greatest handicap is his own self. And he may in despair cry out: "I cannot change myself. I have tried, but it is impossible." But the power and presence of Jesus can re-create a man until he is altogether new. (c) It brings freedom from other people. There are many whose lives are dominated by the fear of what other people may think and say. H. G. Wells once said that the voice of our neighbours sounds louder in our ears than the voice of God. The disciple is the man who has ceased to care what people say, because he thinks only of what God says. (d) It brings freedom from sin. Many a man has come to the stage when he sins, not because he wants to, but because he cannot help it. His sins have so mastered him that, try as he will, he cannot break away from them. Discipleship breaks the chains which bind us to them and enables us to be the persons we know we ought to be.

B13 Live like a Christian. Don’t be ashamed of the Gospel (Romans 1:16-17). Don’t be ashamed of Jesus (Mark 8:38, 2 Timothy 2:12, 1 John 2:22). God help us.

John 17:17 GW Use the truth to make them holy. Your words are truth.

24 August 2020

A Few Thoughts About the Greatest Liar

John 8:44 WEL You are of [your] father, the Devil, and you want to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he has not continued in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he tells [it] from himself, because he is a liar and the father of it. 


Some basics about the devil: 

B1 He was created 

B2 He was originally sinless 

B3 He originally was a servant of Yahweh 

B4 He was gifted more than any other created being 

B5 He starting admiring himself and as a result became proud 

B6 He was removed from his privileged position

C1 He was rebuked 

C2 He sin was exposed 

B7 He became all that God is not, that is, God’s character traits are opposite of the devil’s character. 

C1 He became violent 

D1 The Hebrew word is חָמָס châmâç 

D2 It means violent, false witness, oppression, and doing what is wrong. 

C2 He became a murderer 

C3 He became the Father of lies in whom no truth resides 

D1 He lies 

D2 He deceives 

D3 He pretends to be an angel of light 

C4 He will become humiliated 

B8 He will be thrown out of heaven and will never enter again except for judgment 

B9 He will be thrown into the Lake of Fire to suffer eternal, never ending, conscious torment 

B10 Verses: 

C1 Isaiah 14:12-14 NKJV How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, you who weakened the nations! 13 For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.' 

C2 Ezekiel 28:11-17 GNB The LORD spoke to me again. 12 "Mortal man," he said, "grieve for the fate that is waiting for the king of Tyre. Tell him what I, the Sovereign LORD, am saying: You were once an example of perfection. How wise and handsome you were! 13 You lived in Eden, the garden of God, and wore gems of every kind: rubies and diamonds; topaz, beryl, carnelian, and jasper; sapphires, emeralds, and garnets. You had ornaments of gold. They were made for you on the day you were created. 14 I put a terrifying angel there to guard you. You lived on my holy mountain and walked among sparkling gems. 15 Your conduct was perfect from the day you were created until you began to do evil. 16 You were busy buying and selling, and this led you to violence and sin. So I forced you to leave my holy mountain, and the angel who guarded you drove you away from the sparkling gems. 17 You were proud of being handsome, and your fame made you act like a fool. Because of this I hurled you to the ground and left you as a warning to other kings. 

C3 Matthew 25:41 NIV Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 

C4 Revelation 12:9 NRSV the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 

C5 Revelation 20:7-10 NKJV Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Some ways the devil lies: 

B1 Charm 

B2 Curiosity 

B3 False promises 

B4 The true source of knowledge about something 

B5 Pretend to tell the future 

B6 Being the ultimate narcissist. 

Diverse ways of lying 

B1 It can be in thoughts, desires, words, and deeds 

C1 Thoughts where we deceive ourselves. 

D1 Pride 

D2 Low self-esteem 

D3 Excuses not to do something. We think we are not smart enough, strong enough, gifted enough to do something. Others tell us we can, but we still refuse. 

C2 Desires 

D1 We want to do something we know is wrong, but we justify it. 

D2 Manipulation to get what we want. This might be faking pain to get pain medicine or disabled status. 

C3 Words 

D1 Exaggeration 

E1 Telling others of your great deeds, that are lies. 

E2 False resumes. 

E3 Writing a book with plagiarism, etc. 

E4 Starting rumors. 

D2 Selectively leaving out some details. 

E1 Salespeople might do this. 

E2 Politicians might do this. 

E3 In this type of lie, only what is winnable, manipulative, etc. Is mentioned. 

D3 Broken promises 

E1 If someone promises his children that he will take them fishing this Saturday, but then a friend calls and tells you that he must move, can you help. What do you do? 

E2 If we promise our friends that we will go and _____ this Saturday, but then you get a phone call from the physician that your dad is dying. What do you do? 

E3 We apply the highest priority rule. Our children are a higher priority than our friends, so we keep our promise. Our parents are a higher priority than our friends, so we break our promise to our friends. 

E4 Pretending to be interested in someone for a relationship, then dumping them or disappearing or even worse to hurt purposefully. 

E5 “I’ll never do ______ again.” 

E6 If we make a promise, we must keep it as much as possible. Yet, remember the priority rule above.

D4 Manipulation 

E1 Telling a lie to make a sale or to recruit someone to the cause. 

E2 In relationships, as seeking a boyfriend or girlfriend. 

E3 Lying to law enforcement as in swatting, false child endangerment call, etc. 

D5 White lies 

E1 A physician who does not tell the patient the seriousness of the disease. 

E2 An excuse for not coming to a meeting, a date, an occasion, work, etc. 

E3 Promising to be someplace in a few minutes when you know it will be 15 minutes or more. 

D6 Lies 

E1 Starting rumors 

E2 False witness or testimony 

E3 Joking about someone that obviously is meant to hurt, and then saying, “I was only joking.” 

E4 False oath 

C4 Deeds 

D1 Covering up sin, errors, mistakes, forgetfulness, etc. 

D2 False appearances 

D3 Presenting oneself as a physician, nurse, law enforcement, preacher, holy person, etc. When it is not so. 

D4 False weights and measures. 

D5 Falsifying documents. 

D6 Changing a document for cover-up or whatever. 

D7 Destroying evidence

Some thoughts about lying: 

B1 It is against God’s character: Titus 1:2 CSB in the hope of eternal life that God, who cannot lie, promised before time began. 

B2 It is against God’s laws: Exodus 20:16 GW Never lie when you testify about your neighbor. 

B3 It is loving my neighbor to NOT lie. Galatians 5:14 CSB for the whole law is fulfilled in one statement: Love your neighbor as yourself. 

B4 It is human nature:  

C1 The heart of human is 

D1 Deceitful, wicked, beyond understanding: Jeremiah 17:9 NLT the human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?  

D2 The source of our evil: Matthew 15:19-20 ESV for out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. 20 These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone. 

C2 Corrupted: Romans 5:12 NRSV Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death came through sin, and so death spread to all because all have sinned. 

B5 It has a source: John 8:44 WEL You are of [your] father, the Devil, and you want to do the lusts of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he has not continued in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he tells [it] from himself, because he is a liar and the father of it. 

B6 God hates it: Proverbs 6:16-19 NRSV There are six things that the LORD hates, seven that are an abomination to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that hurry to run to evil, 19 a lying witness who testifies falsely, and one who sows discord in a family. 

B7 It is to be hated and not done by Christians: Colossians 3:9-10 WEL Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have completely rid yourself of the old nature with his deeds, 10 And have put on the new [nature], which is being renewed into knowledge according to the image of him who created him.

How do I avoid lies and liars? 

B1 Skeptical: don’t believe, check it out, take your time (don’t be impulsive), resist bullying. (If it involves a crime, then report it to law enforcement. This applies to abuse of any sort, molestation, etc.). 

B2 Study: multiply sources, pros, and cons 

B3 Research: seek those who have been reasonable in the past (yet be cautious), search in different countries, use safe and private search engines, be cautious 

B4 What is reasonable and most reasonable?

When is lying not lying? 

B1 To protect someone else.  

C1 Compare the ten Boom family hiding Jews to protect their lives. 

C2 Rahab:  

D2 Hebrews 11:31 NKJV by faith the harlot Rahab did not perish with those who did not believe, when she had received the spies with peace. 

D3 James 2:25 NKJV Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent [them] out another way? 

B2 To carry out God’s will. 1 Samuel 16:1-4 NIV The LORD said to Samuel, "How long will you mourn for Saul, since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and be on your way; I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem. I have chosen one of his sons to be king." 2 But Samuel said, "How can I go? If Saul hears about it, he will kill me." The LORD said, "Take a heifer with you and say, 'I have come to sacrifice to the LORD.' 3 Invite Jesse to the sacrifice, and I will show you what to do. You are to anoint for me the one I indicate." 4 Samuel did what the LORD said. When he arrived at Bethlehem, the elders of the town trembled when they met him. They asked, "Do you come in peace?"

What to do when found out to be lying?  

B1 Tell the truth. 

B2 Psalm 51  

B3 Jeremiah 3:13 GNB Only admit that you are guilty and that you have rebelled against the LORD, your God. Confess that under every green tree you have given your love to foreign gods and that you have not obeyed my commands. I, the LORD, have spoken. 

B4 James 5:16 NIV Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective. 

B5 1 John 1:9 EMTV If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 

C1 If our sin is only known to God, confess, and repent (don’t lie anymore). 

C2 If our sin is known by 1 or a few persons, confess to God, confess to that person/s, ask forgiveness, then pay what is owed, etc.


C3 If our sin is known publicly, then confess to God, confess publicly, and restore.

Some articles: 

1 John 3:8 EMTV He who practices sin is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this reason the Son of God appeared, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

We will be destroyed, too, if we do what the devil does.

God gives grace to help:  

B1 James 4:6 EMTV But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: "God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. 

B2 Hebrews 4:16 EMTV Therefore let us come boldly to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need. 

B3 Jude 1:24-25 EMTV Now to Him who is able to keep them from stumbling, and to make you stand before His glory, blameless with exultation, 25 To the only wise God our Savior, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever. Amen.